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Unseen Armenia: Trchkan Falls
By Hovsep Dagdigian
The Trchkan Waterfall is the highest waterfall in Armenia, located near the border of Shirak and Lori marzes (provinces) on the Chichkhan River in northwest Armenia. Water from the river drops 23 meters (about 70 feet) to a pool below. This is a popular site for the local people who are able to travel the mountainous and unpaved road to the falls.
The waterfall is accessible from
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Great, for tourist attraction, and great, for right investment.
Improving road access would help. It could be a tour packages with the other attractions mentioned in the article. Spending the day out in nature.
“A few years ago the Armenian Ministry of Environmental Protection gave permission for the construction of a hydro-electric station here, violating its responsibility to protect this nature preserve. Young people camped out here for months, protesting the government’s failure to live up to its obligation to protect this site. ”
One of the positive developments in Armenia. The younger generation caring about the quality of life and environment in Armenia.
That waterfall and the diversity of wildlife of Armenia is part of Armenia. How those are treated has a huge impact on the people, since Armenia is so small. Environmental issues cannot be contained and isolated like one can in a much larger country. But even in those countries environmental issues can have an impact.
Wait, Random. I thought you said “I don’t have to make comments on every little thing that goes in the Armenian world” when you were asked to explain as to why you kept deathly silence on a statement made by a US government rep. But here you make a comment for an article about a waterfall in Armenia and young people’s activism. I’m confused. Meaning, for you a waterfall and an act of environmental activism is a bigger thing that goes in the Armenian world than an anti-Armenian statement of a mediator to the armed conflict that sends an unambiguous message to the Azeris thus posing a threat to Armenia and Artsakh?
I’ll make a comment on whatever I want john. You may interpret my posts as incorrectly as you want. That’s your problem not mine.
I came to realize, beginning from the long thread on Lemkin, that I interpret your posts, or the absence thereof, rather correctly. These posts, or, again, the absence thereof on selected issues, suggest that you either have ulterior motives or that you may be random but not necessarily Armenian. If either or both of these suspicions is correct, then, you’re right, it is our problem to confront mind-tilting and hidden agendas on these pages.
john,
How come we don’t hear unambiguous condemnation of Azeri sniper and other deadly attacks at the borders? The Russians are supposed to be our Orthodox Christian brothers and sisters right? Should that not call upon Russia to strongly condemn such murders of Armenian soldiers? Does that not worry you? Why are you more worried about me not explicitly expressing my anger at such acts and the words of the American mediator? Why wasn’t Russia condemning the American mediators words? They are pro Armenian and pro Artsakh independence after all right? Right?
That is one of the most desperate Anti-Russian arguments yet.
OSCE members do not criticize each other: it simply is not done.
You should know that, and I believe you do, but are too desperate to defend the Neocon Anti-Armenian, Anti-Christian filth that have infested the US State Dept.
It is not the first time Warlick has spewed putrid vomit about alleged “occupied territories”, while at the same time being completely mum about the inalienable right of Self Determination: a clear breach of protocol and clear breach of Madrid Principles (…as flawed as those ‘principles’ might be).
Warlick is clearly giving an OK to Azerbaijan to continue murdering and killing Armenians.
Warlick’s pronouncement was no accident.
Nuland made a similar Anti-Armenian “suggestion”:
US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland goes to Yerevan, and during a press conference demands, in so many words, that NKR authorities release on, quote, “humanitarian” (sic) grounds two Turkbaijani terrorists who had invaded Armenian lands, kidnapped a 17 year old Armenian youth, tortured him, murdered him, and had dumped his body in a forest. (also had murdered an Armenian officer, and gravely wounded a civilian woman).
In effect, a very high ranking representative of the US State Department was giving the green light to Azerbaijan to kidnap and murder Armenians.
When Russian or French officials make similar “suggestions”, we can talk.
btw: you show your irrational Anti-Russian bias by singling out OSCE member Russia, and conveniently ignoring France, the other member.
Why didn’t France publicly criticize Warlick ?
{I’ll make a comment on whatever I want}.
No one contests or ever contested that.
But on the issue of a statement that pertained to Artsakh conflict resolution, you said: “I don’t have to make comments on every LITTLE THING (capitalization mine) that goes in the Armenian world”. I believe you made yourself clear, therefore no further interpretation or misinterpretation was ever necessary. Hence, my question, again. Since you decided to make a comment (again, no one limits your freedom in choosing what and where to post, except for AW moderators) for this article, do you think that the issue of a waterfall and one paragraph in it relating to an act of environmental activism, is bigger than the official position of one of the mediator states to the Artsakh conflict?
When you care to answer this question of mine (since I asked first) without quibbling, I’d be more than happy to answer the questions you asked in your comment.
Avery, john,
We should move this geopolitics thread back to another article. I don’t want to contaminate this one about nature and waterfalls with so much heated arguments.
Why? There’s no indication that AW Moderators are displeased with the fact that we’re posting here. And the discussion here is not about “geopolitics” or “contamination”, but your biases and possible ulterior motives. You were pushed to the wall and are desperate. This is what it’s all about.
John,
A patriot and a rightful Armenian should be interested, for everything is belong to Armenia….that will promote our beloved homeland in the world, and bring wealth and health, for locals and beautify Armenia in a long run…our superb natural resources considered one of the best in the world. The Armenian private side must improve, while our corrupted stupid MPs and government officials are busy with their old habits.
{A patriot and a rightful Armenian should be interested for everything is belong to Armenia}
Right on, GB. That being the reason why our patriotic and rightful poster [Random] is being repeatedly asked—and repeatedly fails to give a direct answer, without quibbling—as to why he makes extensive comments on one issue and chooses not to let fall a word about the other. One such ‘hush-hush’ issue was a statement by a representative of a mediator-state to the Artsakh conflict, to which patriotic and rightful poster [Random] replied, I quote, “I don’t have to make comments on every little thing that goes in the Armenian world”. Thus, a question. Again. Is a beautiful waterfall in Armenia and a minor act of environmental activism related to it BIGGER thing than an official anti-Armenian statement by one of the Minsk Group reps?
{“I don’t want to contaminate this one about nature and waterfalls with so much heated arguments.”}
(Random Armenian // August 19, 2015 at 1:47 pm //)
Random:
You “contaminated” and politicized this thread with your first comment (Random Armenian // August 18, 2015 at 10:35 am //).
Of all the items discussed in the article, about nature and waterfalls and all that, you picked that one sentence.
You and I know why you did that.
“I’ll make a comment on whatever I want john. “
Well ?
So can we.
What’s good for the goose…and all that.
And as has been noted by me and others numerous times: AW moderators decide what gets published.
If they thought my and [John]’s posts were inappropriate for this thread, they would have been flushed.
Same with yours.
And there are no “arguments” here on the pages of AW, heated or otherwise.
People express opinions and make certain assertions, and others agree or disagree, and provide their own set of facts or nonsense to counter.
It’s a free discussion board generously provided by ArmenianWeekly.
If you don’t want to engage, don’t: nobody is obligated, and there is no penalty for early withdrawal from the thread.
And if you don’t want “contamination” stop digging up dirt and hurling it at Armenia every opportunity you get.
” “I’ll make a comment on whatever I want john. “
Well ?
So can we. ”
Never questioned that at all.
“And as has been noted by me and others numerous times: AW moderators decide what gets published.
If they thought my and [John]’s posts were inappropriate for this thread, they would have been flushed.”
Never questioned AW’s authority over their site either. In fact I’ve never even brought AW in previous discussion. I get the feeling you’re projecting your desire to have me banned or something.
You do realize we’re having heated arguments over whether we’re having heated arguments?
“And if you don’t want “contamination” stop digging up dirt and hurling it at Armenia every opportunity you get.”
This is the source of your problem Avery. You automatically assume that speaking open and critically about issues in Armenia is somehow digging up dirt to tarnish Armenia. You just can’t deal or accept internal issues which are going in Armenia, and see them spoken openly.
Corruption is a reality. Immigration out of Armenia is a reality. Environmental issues are a reality. The intent of speaking about these, expression of disgust about these current affairs which hurt Armenia, is not to make Armenia look bad or tarnish it. But it’s an expression and a desire to see Armenia be better. Such issues will not go away on their own, but by us and most importantly by those living in Armenia, speaking up about them. You can see the Armenian government react when people speak up about injustice.
You’re not fooling anyone by pretending corruption and emigration either is not happening or it’s not an issue. People in Armenia know what’s going on in their own country.
I have been to Armenia. I have spoken with Hayastantsis in and outside of Hayastan. They speak of corruption, they speak of issues and frustration with the authorities. This is real. And it’s hurting Armenia. Armenia can be more than it is now.
And frankly your posts either excuse these important issues or pretend they don’t exist.
{“I get the feeling you’re projecting your desire to have me banned or something.”}
Random: [John] is right: {“You were pushed to the wall and are desperate. This is what it’s all about.”}
You really are getting desperate.
I am genuinely surprised that you’d fold that easily.
Have you banned from AW ?
My, my, my.